The New RMT (rate my team)

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this is the same Rmt as always,just try not to spam in here.

unforunately gliscor he cant learn Roost or i would have it on him :/

and ok on Gyra Dayctl and Skar

and i'm coming up with teams for Every Type for fun so heres a possible Bug team and Ice team

Bug:'

Scizor
technician
Nature: Adamant or Jolly
EVs: 252 ATK 252 Spd
Bullet punch
Swords dance
A-Ace
Roost

Heracross
Adamant or Jolly
EVs: 252 ATK 252 Spd
Megahorn
EQ
Swords dance
Brick break

Yanmega
Natures: Timid or Modest
EVs: 252 Sp. ATK 252 Spd
Bug Buzz
Psyhic
Air slash
Protect

Pinsir
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 ATK 252 Spd
Superpower/brick break
Swords dance
X-scissor(for a STAB)
EQ

Venomoth/ Shuckle
Natures: Timid or modest| relaxed or impish
EVs: 252 Sp. ATK 252 Spd| 252 HP 252 Def
Bug buzz/u turn | Bug bite
psychic | Power trick
toxic/toxic spikes| EQ
protect(can be used to see what foe has)| gastro acid

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Ice

Weavile
Nature: Jolly or Adamant
EVs: 252 ATK and Spd
Ice punch
ice shard
night slash
brick break

Mamoswine
nature: Adamant or Jolly
Evs: 252 ATK and Spd
EQ
Ice shard
curse
superpower

Abomasnow
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Hp 252 ATK
wood hammer
ice punch
Sub
Leech Seed

Frolass
Nature: Naive or Hasty
Evs: 252 Spd 126 ATK 126 SP. ATK
ice shard/ice beam
destiny bond
shadow ball
thunderbolt

Cloyster
Skill Link
nature: Adamant or Impish
EVs: 252 ATK 252 DEF
Icicle spear/ ice shard
rock blast
spike cannon
Toxic spikes/ protect

Glaceon
signal beam
ice beam
curse
Baton pass

scor can learn roost, mine knows it

also wow nice teams o_o
for scizor id recommend adamant, and replace a-ace with a bug stab, bug bite is its best option since it gets boosted by tech and can steal berries, however it only learns it in hg/ss i think

Z-man wrote:scor can learn roost, mine knows it

also wow nice teams o_o
for scizor id recommend adamant, and replace a-ace with a bug stab, bug bite is its best option since it gets boosted by tech and can steal berries, however it only learns it in hg/ss i think

nope in plat too

for glaceon dont do curse cause even if its a bulky pokemon it is already slow and needs some speed plus the attack side for curse doesnt help it at all but not too bad coverage

Same for mamoswine do not use curse though it has great hp its typing isnt great for defense and it is in nature a very offensive pokemon so like scarfing it is good or sashing then using ice shard is good too but curse is not ideal for it

Skill link is risky in some situations and moves away from cloysters better starategies but is still a good theory

Bug team i like

CTrainer wrote:

Z-man wrote:scor can learn roost, mine knows it

also wow nice teams o_o
for scizor id recommend adamant, and replace a-ace with a bug stab, bug bite is its best option since it gets boosted by tech and can steal berries, however it only learns it in hg/ss i think

nope in plat too

it learns bug bite?

Z-man wrote:

CTrainer wrote:

Z-man wrote:scor can learn roost, mine knows it

also wow nice teams o_o
for scizor id recommend adamant, and replace a-ace with a bug stab, bug bite is its best option since it gets boosted by tech and can steal berries, however it only learns it in hg/ss i think

nope in plat too

it learns bug bite?

yea its like a lv 0 move in hg/ss and plat i think

CTrainer wrote:for glaceon dont do curse cause even if its a bulky pokemon it is already slow and needs some speed plus the attack side for curse doesnt help it at all but not too bad coverage

Same for mamoswine do not use curse though it has great hp its typing isnt great for defense and it is in nature a very offensive pokemon so like scarfing it is good or sashing then using ice shard is good too but curse is not ideal for it

Skill link is risky in some situations and moves away from cloysters better starategies but is still a good theory

Bug team i like

glaceon has curse for b-pass, but yea u could teach it barrier or double team to pass instead, all work. mamos curse can work well because of ice shard and snow cloak

Z-man wrote:

CTrainer wrote:for glaceon dont do curse cause even if its a bulky pokemon it is already slow and needs some speed plus the attack side for curse doesnt help it at all but not too bad coverage

Same for mamoswine do not use curse though it has great hp its typing isnt great for defense and it is in nature a very offensive pokemon so like scarfing it is good or sashing then using ice shard is good too but curse is not ideal for it

Skill link is risky in some situations and moves away from cloysters better starategies but is still a good theory

Bug team i like

glaceon has curse for b-pass, but yea u could teach it barrier or double team to pass instead, all work. mamos curse can work well because of ice shard and snow cloak

o totally didnt see b pass on glaceon hahaha but idk mamo cant take the pounding of one or two turns to set up with curse because its typing makes it pretty open to be hit for serious damage

true mamos weak to fire, fighting, water, grass, uhh... steel. pretty common types. but he really only has to take 1 hit b4 he can hit back hard wit eq, then finish off with shard. plus its hp is great, and def is ok, and with leftovers and snow cloak, idk could work

thanks and i'll look into barrier or double team instead.
i was thinking using ice shard w/ curse because ice shard hits 1st anyways plus Mamo has pretty good defense along with HP. Or can be B-passed in w/ glaceon after its use a stat boost move.

heres two more teams i though of [

b]Steel[/b]
Aggron
Rock Head
natures: Adamant or impish
EVs: 252 ATK 126 DEF 126 Sp. Def
moves:
Head Smash
iron head
Curse
EQ

Steelix
Rock Head
Nature: Adamant or Impish
EVs: 252 ATK 252 DEF
Double edge
EQ
curse
Ice/Fire fang

Metagross
natures: Admant or Impish
EVS: 252 ATK 126 Sp. DEF 126 DEF
Meteor mash/iron head
Thunder punch
Sleep talk
Rest

Skarmory
Nature: Impish
EVs 252 DEF 126 HP 126
moves:
Stealth Rock
Steel wing
Roost
Roar

Lucario
Nature: Naive or Hasty
Evs: 252 Spd 126 ATK 126 SP. ATK
Aura sphere
bullet punch
dragon pusle
EQ

Brongzong
nature: Brave or Relaxed
EVs: 252 ATK 126 DEF 126 SP. DEF
moves:
Trick room
gyro ball
Rest/ EQ
Sleep talk/ Sub

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Rock

Rhyperior
Nature: Adamant or Jolly
Evs: 252 ATK 252 Spd
EQ
Ice fang/ outrage
Brick Break/ Hammer arm
Rock slide

Rampardos
Item: Choice Scarf
Nature: Adamant or Jolly
Evs: 252 ATK 252 Spd
movesL
EQ
Zen headbutt/iron head
Head smash/rock slide
thunder punch/ fire punch

I know Rampardos has Monstrous atk by low Defenses and Spd(like most rocks) so i'm giving it the choice scarf to speed it up so he can use his Gigantic Atk power


-this poke is already made- T-Tar
Impish
EVs: 252 ATK 252 DEF
Crunch
EQ
DD
rock slide

Cradily
nature: Adamant
recover
seed bomb
EQ
ingrain?

not sure on the last slot which is ingain but not sure if i should replace it or not. Cradily's purpose to kill off Water pokemon that threaten the team and also takes normal damage from EQ

Aerodacytl
Jolly
252 ATK 252 Spd
Stealth rock
Taunt
EQ
rock slide

Probopass(wall)
Nature:brave relaxed or Sassy
Magnet rise
Discharge
earth power
Toxic/thunder wave

hmm, cradily is a great swords dance user since his suction cups ability prevents it from being roared/whirlwinded away, so that could work in the last slot.

aggrons sp.def is pretty weak, so im not sure if curse will prove effective most of the time. rock polish is a good alternative.

steelix is good, but curse and gyro ball literally go perfectly together, so thats a move to consider, probly u could replace double edge, as it doesnt give alot of coverage, and its stab eq will do about the same damage when nuetral.

everything else looks great

Electric Type team

Lanturn
Timid or Modest
252 Spd 252 Sp. ATK
Surf
thunder wave
thunderbolt
rain dance

Magnezone
Modest or Timid
252 Spd 252 Sp. Atk
Flash cannon
thunderbolt
magnet rise
thunder wave

Rotom
timid or modest
252 Spd 252 Sp. ATK
charge beam
shadow ball
sub
-depends on which form he is in-

Jolteon
timid or modest
252 Sp. ATK 252 Spd
Thunderbolt/ thunder
baton pass
agility
toxic/thunder wave

Electivire
Adamant or Jolly
252 ATK 252 Spd
Thunder punch
EQ
brick break
ice punch

Luxray
adamant or jolly
252 ATK 252 Spd
thunder fang
crunch
baton pass
howl


Laturn + Electivire in 2v2 could be a good team. Electivire can use eletric atk on laturn to heal it while Laturn uses eletric atks on Electivire to increase his speed
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Psychic Team

Alakazam
timid or modest
252 Sp. ATK 252 Spd
Psychic
energy ball
thunderbolt
Guard swap (if the send out a Wall w/ awesome defenses use this and take those walling stats and replace them w/ paper defenses )

Slowking
Modest or timid
252 ATK 252 Sp. Def
Calm mind
psychic
surf
thunder wave

Metagross
Admant or Jolly
252 ATK 252 Spd
bullet punch
stealth rock
thunder punch
EQ


Claydol
Timid or Modest
252 Sp. ATK 252 Spd
Calm mind
Earth power
shadow ball
grass knot

Xatu
Timid or Modest
252 Sp. ATK 252 Spd
psychic
heat wave
confuse ray
thunder wave

Gallade
Adamant or Jolly
252 ATK 252 Spd
psycho cut
close combat
EQ
toxic

nice

slowking becomes much harder to take down with slack off, so u could replace thunder wave possibly.

unfortunently, guard swap only switches stat boosts in the def stats, not the actual stats. its confusing cuz thats what it sounds like it does, and haha itd be cool if it did. also kazam cant learn t-bolt, so u might wanna go with focus blast even tho its innacurate.

lanturn would be great with discharge, as it hits all pokes on the field, including vire or jolteon if its a double battle. and if rotom has discharge it can do the same. it teams up especially well with vire, because it is uneffected by eq

ok on slowking and laturn
Curses and why does it not say so Gamefreak why did you just have to get ppls hopes up just to shut them down.

i'll put focus blast and if i get a wide lens on it to boost its accuaracy
would shock wave be any could for an eletric move on Zam

hmm, well shock wave would help take down skarmory, g-dos, but besides that, most of the time psychic + energy ball will get the job done. for your last slot, trick, encore, sub, shadow ball, signal beam are all good options

Posion Team

Drapion
-same one as the dark team-
moves
cross posion
night slash
EQ
swords dance

Toxicroack -revenge killer-
Muscle Band
Adamant or Jolly
252 ATK 252 Spd
Bullet punch
brick break
bulk up -adds power and helps w/ defense-
EQ

Nidoking -special sweeper-
mild or hasty
252 SP. ATK 252 Spd
Ice Beam
Flamethrower
Thunderbolt
EQ

Crobat
Adamant or Jolly
252 ATK 252 Spd
A-Ace
Toxic
U-turn
Super fang -half hp of foe so screw you blissey-

Gengar
timid or modest
252 Sp. ATK 252 Spd
thunderbolt
energy ball
shadow ball
confuse ray

roserade
timid or modest
252 Sp. ATK 252 Spd
energy ball
toxic
shadow ball
weather ball - for weather teams not sure on how to build roserade-

I'm thinking of maybe dropping one of the pokemon above -maybe roserade- for tentacruel but not sure any input here

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Fighting team

Machamp
Adamant
252 ATK 126 DEF 126 Sp. Def
moves:
bullet punch
superpower
bulk up
thunder punch

Infernape
Naive or Hasty
126 atk 126 sp. atk 252 spd
flamethrower
EQ
vaccum wave
rock slide

Lucario
timid or modest
252 Sp. atk 252 Spd
dragon pusle
aura sphere
calm mind
shadow ball

Gallade
adamant or jolly
252 atk 252 Spd
psycho cut
leaf blade
close combat
EQ

toxicrock
-same as above-

heracross
adamant or jolly
252 atk 252 spd
night slash
bulk up
brick break
bug bite


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Normal

Togekiss
timid or modest
252 Sp. ATK 252 Spd
aura sphere
shadow ball
air slash
roost

Snorlax
adamant
252 ATK 126 hp 126 sp. def
crunch
ice punch
rest
sleep talk

PorygonZ
timid or modest
252 Sp. ATk 252 Spd
psychic
thunderbolt
thunderwave
tri attack(if adability)/signal beam(if download)

kangaskhan
scrappy
jolly or adamant
252 ATK 252 Spd
outrage
dizzy punch
EQ
sub

keceleon
adamant or jolly
252 ATK 252 Spd
skill swap
brick break
shadow claw
faint attack

Miltank
scrappy
jolly or adamant
252 ATK 252 Spd
Milk drink
EQ
rollout
return

i agree, ur poison team is mainly offensive, so tenta would be good for sp.def.

for machamp id go with no gaurd / dynamic punch / stone edge, as no other poke has access to that combo, and its very effective.

kecleon doesnt benifit from faint atk very much, so recover, thunder wave, toxic, trick could replace it.

snorlax i would teach curse and body slam, curse raises its not so good def, while making it more offensively deadly. but rest is still very important. so for the last slot, fire punch offers the safest coverage.

pory-z benifits from normal stab, regardless of ability, and ice beam or dark pulse are a bit more helpful than psychic, dark pulse is interesting as it works well with thunder wave due to its flinch chance.

also i wouldnt recommend non-stab outrage, kangaskhan would be a bit more reliable with ice punch or focus punch instead

mega horn on heracross, in most cases, is better than bug bite, and it is its signature move after all.

reason for faint attack on kecleon

use skill swap and your opponent has kecleon's ability and kecleon gets opponent's abilty

use any one of the moves than that pokemon becomes the type of that move heres a diagram
*pionts to what it beats-
Dark -> Psychic -> fighting ->Dark

and i'll look on to the other stuff. though i'l going to have outrage on kashgkan because of how many shards i'm goig to need for my teams

oh, but ghost is super effective against ghost, so shadow claw can do that with skill swap on its own

Forgot that XD ok will kick out faint attack for another move

drapion can be a great defensive poke if u wanted to change it to that

i know drapion can be a good defensive poke but it can be defensive and offensive as well. because it can take hits and dish them out

Absol. Naughty (got from ever LONG time ago)
Swords Dance
Sucker Punch
Night Slash
Psycho Cut

holding focus sash

evs in atk/spd



Raikou. Naive
Calm Mind
Rest
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt

holding Chesto Berry

evs in spatk and speed



Umbreon/Nyx. Impish
Protect
Moonlight
Payback
Curse

holding lefties

evs in atk/def


Infernape/Blaze 2.0. Adamant
Stone Edge
EQ
CC
Flare Blitz

holding life orb/muscle band

evs in atk/spd


Heracross. Lonely
Megahorn
CC
EQ
Stone Edge

holding choice scarf

evs in atk/spd


Scizor. Adamant
Roost
SD
Bulletpunch
X-Scissor

holding life orb

evs in def/spdef/hp (got in trade...not 100% sure)


this team put my HG battling record into the positives

Scorpio13 wrote:Absol. Naughty (got from ever LONG time ago)
Swords Dance
Sucker Punch
Night Slash
Psycho Cut

holding focus sash

evs in atk/spd



Raikou. Naive
Calm Mind
Rest
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt

holding Chesto Berry

evs in spatk and speed



Umbreon/Nyx. Impish
Protect
Moonlight
Payback
Curse

holding lefties

evs in atk/def


Infernape/Blaze 2.0. Adamant
Stone Edge
EQ
CC
Flare Blitz

holding life orb/muscle band

evs in atk/spd


Heracross. Lonely
Megahorn
CC
EQ
Stone Edge

holding choice scarf

evs in atk/spd


Scizor. Adamant
Roost
SD
Bulletpunch
X-Scissor

holding life orb

evs in def/spdef/hp (got in trade...not 100% sure)


this team put my HG battling record into the positives

its also my main battling team lol