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Post by Empoleon_Ruler Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:29 pm

First topic message reminder :

ok, what do u guys think of these pokemon for my water party:

Luddicolo
Starmie
Empoleon
Swampers
Vaporeon
Kingdra

I still have to come up with moves and EV's but could u guys give me some feedback.
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Post by Chu M'on Dude Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:35 pm

One of the team members should know Hydro Cannon if possible.

You HAVE to have the strongest water move there is!
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Post by Empoleon_Ruler Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:37 pm

yeah i do need one, but what pokemon will that be??????? only empoleon, swampert, feraligatr, and blastoise can learn it. might just be empoleon.
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Post by Chu M'on Dude Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:39 pm

Definatly Empoleon. Best of those starters (in my opinion)
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Post by Empoleon_Ruler Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:40 pm

lol, me too. between him and swampert.
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Post by Chu M'on Dude Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:43 pm

Basically on due to partial immunitys to water weaknesses (Elec, Grss, etc)
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Post by Empoleon_Ruler Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:06 pm

no, emp is still completely weakened by elec moves. but not grass moves
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Post by D.S. Delano Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:11 pm

DO NOT GIVE HYDRO CANNON TO ANY POKEMON

why because it requires a recharge that you can use for another attack

heres a layout of it

Hydro cannon 150 + 0(recharge turn) = 150
Surf 90 + 90 = 180

than throw in the STAB bonus which makes surf more powerful within the two turns of atk.

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Post by Empoleon_Ruler Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:23 pm

the only reason i would teach it to emp is because of some kind of dire situation. bu otherwise no, not to anyone else.
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Post by DoubleE Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:14 pm

I dont think you should put hydro cannon, its to risky

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Post by Empoleon_Ruler Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:28 pm

yeah, alot of people say no, so......no i won't Toungue
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Post by Z-man Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:36 am

hydro cannon would only really work if it was used by a choice scarfer, with high sp.atlk, in the rain. then it could 1hko alot of things :O
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Post by Empoleon_Ruler Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:14 am

that would be really good! might put that int consideration Very Happy
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Post by Z-man Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:34 pm

haha if u do go with that, the best user is probly empoleon, even though its not very fast. so if u think scarf wont make it fast enough, u could try choice specs for... complete destruction!! OMG
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Post by Chu M'on Dude Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:44 pm

Come to the chat, peoples...

PS. Consider Blastoise, it can take hits
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Post by CTrainer Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:45 pm

Chu M'on Dude wrote:Come to the chat, peoples...

PS. Consider Blastoise, it can take hits
definately he is a great wall and also another good one like that is quagsire
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Post by Chu M'on Dude Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:44 pm

Quag is x4 to grass. Blast is only x2.
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Post by D.S. Delano Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:50 pm

HOWEVER

its immune to electric atks and grass is its only weakness and he can also get recover from breedin with a shello, gastrodon, corsola, or milotic with it.(HGSS only though)

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Post by Chu M'on Dude Tue Mar 23, 2010 8:06 pm

But it can't learn Hydro Cannon, and that's the whole reason I suggested Blastoise


If it uses it and fails at a KO, it can take the turn it gets hit
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Post by CTrainer Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:43 pm

Chu M'on Dude wrote:But it can't learn Hydro Cannon, and that's the whole reason I suggested Blastoise


If it uses it and fails at a KO, it can take the turn it gets hit
the strat of hydro cannon does sound cool and all but its only a theory and isnt really practiced in real wifi, which could mean good or bad things for it, id say go with guagsire personally because of great typing (no one brings grass types really) and ability, water absorb, as well as hp heavy stats and not bad move pool makes it a pretty great option otherwise but with blastoise i think its a great poekon but it doesnt really have the greatest stats, not saying it couldnt do it, to pull of being a revenge killer or a like Pory Z with Scarf Adaptability Hyper beam .
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