The Breaker Clan (TBC)

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kanga is just all around good.. it can sub-up and focus-p/return ghosts with some serious power... then meganium with salac b. and flail is good

Gold wrote:i wonder how strong that 5th ice ball would be + 6 curses??..

Each Curse goes by 1.5, so at 6 curses it 3x the Atk and Def Base.....so im not sure lol

ice ball / rollout increase in power after u use defense curl

a walrein ice ball has a 480 att base power at the 5th stage........with defense curl it turns into a whopping 960 base att............if u were to add 1-2 curses there is nothing in the game that can live after that attk O.O....... even somthing with a .25 resistance, max ev'd in defense + hp, and max ivs (smogon damage calc.)

yes there is always focus sash to ruin the fun and roar to kill the curse

ever25 wrote:yes there is always focus sash to ruin the fun and roar to kill the curse

very true

now that i know wat gold has imma carry focus sash roare

Gold wrote:a walrein ice ball has a 480 att base power at the 5th stage........with defense curl it turns into a whopping 960 base att............if u were to add 1-2 curses there is nothing in the game that can live after that attk O.O....... even somthing with a .25 resistance, max ev'd in defense + hp, and max ivs (smogon damage calc.)

my moltres after roost believes that

Gold wrote:a walrein ice ball has a 480 att base power at the 5th stage........with defense curl it turns into a whopping 960 base att............if u were to add 1-2 curses there is nothing in the game that can live after that attk O.O....... even somthing with a .25 resistance, max ev'd in defense + hp, and max ivs (smogon damage calc.)

yea but only at the last stage. it could miss 1 outa the 5 times

it didnt miss once yesterday

i take it ur moltres didnt survive?

yup. it fainted. and the rest of my team too.

O_O wow all from walrien?

almost everything i use is weak to ice or frail

oh >_<

Gold wrote:a walrein ice ball has a 480 att base power at the 5th stage........with defense curl it turns into a whopping 960 base att............if u were to add 1-2 curses there is nothing in the game that can live after that attk O.O....... even somthing with a .25 resistance, max ev'd in defense + hp, and max ivs (smogon damage calc.)

one of the best counters:
lapras, it 4x resists, can roar it out, and can use t-bolt

good idea

dont forget the huge Hp

Z man wrote:

Gold wrote:a walrein ice ball has a 480 att base power at the 5th stage........with defense curl it turns into a whopping 960 base att............if u were to add 1-2 curses there is nothing in the game that can live after that attk O.O....... even somthing with a .25 resistance, max ev'd in defense + hp, and max ivs (smogon damage calc.)

one of the best counters:
lapras, it 4x resists, can roar it out, and can use t-bolt

my walrein can yawn then set up

ugh. i always had trouble with waters,even in firered

hmmm.........

good to know star

more randomness

Gold wrote:

Z man wrote:

Gold wrote:a walrein ice ball has a 480 att base power at the 5th stage........with defense curl it turns into a whopping 960 base att............if u were to add 1-2 curses there is nothing in the game that can live after that attk O.O....... even somthing with a .25 resistance, max ev'd in defense + hp, and max ivs (smogon damage calc.)

one of the best counters:
lapras, it 4x resists, can roar it out, and can use t-bolt

my walrein can yawn then set up

lapras could safeguard or sub then

i love safeguard

also using swaager with safeguard